Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
Rules for submission:
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
- 9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Excellent find. As always, be the skittles guy.
Weightyboy 2mo ago
Skittles guy. Perhaps one on the most enlightening pieces of literature and should be mandatory reading for all men at coming of age.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
It all depends how she feels. If she feels he is high value and she is lucky to get a look in then she's all in, whatever comes with him is fine. And if he is a bad boy too, well so much the better.
The reality is that women's reality all depends how they feel.
Weightyboy 2mo ago
It is all about the fee fees, the moment I hear a sentence begin with "I feel", I think oh here we go with some hippy new age crystal, reiki, astrological horse shit, hamster in overdrive mode.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I agree. Women also seem to have less of a grasp of reality and make decisions based on the will of their peers. Men tend to be more logical and level-headed. Although it's a human thing to be swayed by popular opinion, I think men have more of a propensity to stand alone if need be.
I've heard people say that "you can't trust a man's opinion of how a relationship is going because men are clueless". But I've found just the opposite. If a woman feels depressed or happy or whatever, this is generally what others see and judge by. But a husband can more easily take himself out of the situation and gauge how things are going.
This can be harnessed. A woman can be taught to depend on the steadiness and level-headedness of her man, especially when she feels extreme emotions - either high or low. If she knows her feelings are sometimes not reality but something that will soon pass, she can learn to view her husband as her "emotional rock".
I think every couple with a baby goes through this at some point, in a dramatic way. The baby is crying and dad says, "Just leave him alone for a bit, there's nothing wrong and he has to be taught to go to sleep on his own." Mom is freaking out because "there could be something seriously wrong" and the crying drives her nuts. My wife obeyed me, somewhat grudgingly, and gradually learned to trust my judgment. It solved a lot of problems in the long run. Not that men are always correct, but we do care about the long game, the finished product, more than women.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
That's oversimplifying things a bit. Men sometimes don't understand how a relationship is going due to projection: We're logical beings so we assume women are as well. Sane (but uneducated) people cannot understand or assess insane people.
The problem is that our society is generally messed up in many ways, not just in gender relations. I realized when I was about 25 that my "problem" was that I just thought that the society I was living in stank. I thought the way people around me were doing things was unhealthy and it was distressing to me since those around me were naturally treating me as if I was "off".
I decided to learn Polish and polish (pardon the pun) my rusty German and left the USA for a week and spent time socializing with friends overseas. I came back a totally different person. Now Europe (at that time) wasn't perfect by any means, but it was astonishing to me that cultural "absolutes" I had thought were set in stone were not so. For example: Women in Europe could actually hold a conversation without being easily offended, didn't only want to sit around other women, were not hostile or ambivalent, and so on.
Imagine if you had grown up in a neighborhood where there was always noise: Someone blasting a stereo, cars with no mufflers, screaming people outside and inside and for the first time in your life, you went to a farm and went to sleep and the only sound was crickets. It would be emotionally staggering. I returned to the USA a different person.
So what I'm saying here is that many men in the states have grown up in a sensory deprivation chamber. They cannot assess things well because they lack context. We take the RP for granted, but millions of men continue to somehow not be exposed to this wisdom until in their 30's and beyond. To a certain degree I feel sorry for the women as well: They're practically force fed this nonsense during their formative years and because it's so delicious (feminine entitlement), it's all that much easier for them to swallow.
That said, men generally wise up more quickly because there's little benefit in BP thinking. Back in the 1980's, if you were a good BM, you got transactional sex and marriage and a 50:50 shot at a marriage working out. It's like that Russian Roulette scene in Deer Hunter. To be RP back then was a brave (if you don't mind me bragging) thing to do but I felt that it was right for me. It also turned out to be the best choice for me. Sometimes life works out like that.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I recently came across a post in a Pakistani source, where a pakistani woman is saying that having illegitimate (in the sense of her religion) sex with a hot guy, and then getting married to a safe caring guy is the right of every - drum rolls pls - muslim women.
DextroShade 2mo ago
"Abdul, get the rocks!"
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
A woman's hamster can rationalize anything. Below is another example of Hamsterazation.
Female logic at rejecting 80% of men
Western women and girls are positively bombarded with affirmation from the moment they're born. They have been told that masculinity is "toxic' that "Boys are stupid" and to "Throw rocks at them.", “The future is Female, You go Girl” and “Smash the Patriarchy.” Is it any wonder that so many women think that their only real challenge in life is weeding out men they don't want?
From her perspective, she looks at herself and sees a goddess. She thinks, "I am absolutely fabulous, which means that I can have any man I want." Then she looks at all the men around her and thinks, "Gross! Only a few of them are worthy of me."
So how does she navigate through her dating life? She rejects most men as being unworthy of her. She ignores the "bottom" 80% of men. Why bother with the those bottom feeders? She deserves nothing but the best. They should be beating a path to her door, right?
She's so wonderful that all she has to do is make the "top" men aware of her existence and availability, and they'll fight to qualify themselves to her. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?
There are exceptions though. Its not about how many boxes he checks on her list. Its about how many boxes she is willing to remove from her list for him. She may say he needs to have at least 80% of requirements in her 10 point list. If she finds him hot but he only meets 4 requirements, she will gladly remove 5 for him to meet her 80% threshold. And if he is a Chad or a Bad Boi, what requirements?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
Comments are turned off for this Ted Talk post for obvious reasons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6wG_sAdP0U
This is a an aging, frumpy, demanding boss babe who brags she "hacked" online dating when all she really did was actually put in more of an effort than her contemporaries. She researched what a good profile should look like and when a decent fish jumped in her net, she turned her hamster rationalizations in her favor. Haven't watched the video for a while, but she had something like 60 things on her "list" of demands and then she found ways to qualify the guy she found "hot" (height, income, education) on them as if he was going through a qualifying process to prove his worth to her when knows (subconsciously) that if she let this guy slip through, she would have a tough time replacing him.
What I found annoying about this video, and why comments are turned off, was even as she was successful (and deserves kudos for that), her entitlement attitude is insufferable.
ExConvictNowMillionaire 2mo ago
I just watched it & she had "72 data points" LOL.
The part about her being upset over having to pay a 1300 USD bill on a date because the guy ditched & left her with the bill AFTER she already decided they were just going to be friends is also very interesting & AWALT. It really shows her entitlement. "I reject you - but you should still pay for me."
She is in fact truly insufferable
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
In all fairness, Steve the IT guy had ordered a lot of food that was left on the table perhaps because he intended to dine and dash. I watched it again up to that point and chuckled as she ran the numbers in that she at least was more responsible than other leftovers who hit the wall failing to see the stratospheric odds and chuckled at the one point in her math:
That she would find only 10% of the men in her demographic attractive.
It's obvious why comments are disabled: Does SHE look like a top 10 percenter to you? She further reduced it to 5% with her "no sports" demand.
Back to the $1300 bill: I think she intended to fully stick him with the bill if she liked him (that's how women treat the men they like, think about how messed up that is) and says she considered splitting it after deciding to LJBF him, but still, she shouldn't have gone on such a date to begin with if she had morals. Stick with lunch at a cheap place.
Anyhoo, kudos to her for having a work ethic. There are few true inspins, just the ones who are utterly lazy.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2mo ago
I watched that thing and basically the only good point she made was that successful profiles were short and stuck to optimistic, non-specific language and (this is key) not because they're dumbing themselves down, but because they're making themselves more approachable. ding ding ding. When you write that you're fluent in 5 languages and have backpacked through 100 countries, no one is impressed. All they're seeing is that you're going to have equally specific, idiosyncratic demands on them, which they'll never fulfill, so why bother?
I'm glad she found someone and got married, but the truth is the rest of her approach is so blinded with mistakes that really, it was luck, not any sort of logical hacking, that got her her result.
Let's start with the obvious: an f'ing spreadsheet to rate men before she even meets them! Meanwhile, they get huffy if guys rate girls on a 1-10 scale of attractiveness off of a picture! Not only that, but it was filled with stupid shit. You want a guy to travel to Petra and wander the souks of Cairo? Honey, that's the type of shit single people do. Once you're married and have kids, the first several years, you won't travel at all, and after that, cruise ships and all-inclusives with a kiddie pool are about the most exotic places you're going to be visiting. Lugging a 2 year old around Cairo worried about food, sunburn, dysentry, and kidnappings (not in that order) is not a vacation. I really can't stand people who are so specific about what type of travel they want to do with a partner. It's the height of arrogance to assume that only you know what parts of the world are valuable. That a guy who likes to go camping at the local state park might actually introduce you to a whole new world that's just as fun and amazing as being on a package bus tour and snapping pictures of Petra while pretending you're Indiana Jones just discovering what's now basically a tourist trap for people who feel the need to feed their instagram page.
The other big mistake she makes is that, after creating her 10 fake guy profiles and collecting the women who respond, she doesn't then attempt to figure out who among those women would such a guy respond to. Rather, she just draws conclusions from all of the women who responded. Hate to break it to you, but desirable guys aren't slaves to be bought at auction based soley on buyers' needs. They have their own preferences and standards and they'll discard 90% of the profiles (especially if they're looking for something serious) before meeting them. So making your profile similar to the ones who respond just makes you closer to... women who like such profiles (which you already are), not closer to the women such guys like in return. For a woman who keeps going on and on about how smart and savvy and logical she is, this seems to be a glaring error.
Next, she dances around what study after study shows is the #1 factor in getting matches: your looks (for both guys and girls). All she can say is that women who liked the fake profiles "showed more skin". Well duh, it's because they were hotter. If you're an overweight post-wall frumpy woman, showing more skin will probably work against you. Note, she had no problem putting several lineitems on her spreadsheet about the guys appearance: his height, weight, hair must be curly and dark and no male pattern baldness, not too muscular, etc. So she's totally fine acknowledging her own physical standards and refusing to compromise on them. But she couldn't bring herself to acknowledge that guys, especially the desirable guys she's after, have their own standards, and she doesn't meet them. So she ducks it by concluding "I just need to show more skin." I wonder if she papers over similar unpleasant conclusions in her work as a "consultant".
And finally, and perhaps most importantly, this whole exercise was a sham: the point is not to find out what guys like, and then craft a profile to meet those standards. It's to actually change to be the type of person those guys like. Otherwise, when your real personality finally comes out, the relationship will be in trouble. IOW, the problem isn't that her profile made her seem like a picky, superficial, demanding boss babe, while the other profiles made the other women seem nice, approachable, and easy going. It's that she actually is a picky, superficial demanding boss babe. Notice that nothing she learned about what guys look for in a woman was applied to changing her spreadsheet. Her scoring system remained the same. The only thing that changed was the profile, to hide the fact that she was the type of person to have such an elaborate spreadsheet in the first place.
She didn't say to herself "demanding that my guy better want to go to Petra results in fewer matches, so I should remove that from my spreadsheet, or at least give it fewer points, and be accepting of guys who have different ideas of travel." Nope. She just removed it from her profile, but it was still important enough that she mentions she finally visited Petra with the guy she matched with, and even named her daughter Petra. That's not change. That's just better marketing.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
To your last point/sentence, what we laugh at on here is how arrogant modern women are in that they can't even bother to market themselves thinking that their demands are assets. I think she made an effort to "change", at least during courtship, by playing hamster-wheel games with her list and "giving him a chance" when the reality is that he was tall, her religion, professional, and didn't offend her hypocritical politics. All she had to do was learn to keep her big mouth shut and if that meant all this nonsense, it succeeded.
What The Pig Woman Experiment shows is that even unattractive women can still get amazing opportunities the average man has to bust his hump for. It's said at weddings that all brides are beautiful because they put an effort into their appearance for that day. She made an effort to make a sexually desirable profile photo.
Yeah, chuckling at your points above about her obsession with Petra as if that makes her cool or something like a teenage boy putting Star Wars posters on his wall. Don't get me wrong, I think it's wonderful to do such things (I want to take the Trans-Siberian railroad when the war is over) but it's not something that should have anything to do with a healthy relationship.
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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3mo ago
Removed. Rule #1.
wswZtyqNGQ 3mo ago
Shit, dude. This post is an exception due to the idea being Blue Pilled beyond any possible reason!
How can anyone learn anything if we can't learn from the stupidity of others?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
There are no exceptions to rule 1.
Dude, bloopies deny that women's hybristophilia is even real.
This meme is about having a laugh at the ones who make bad decisions based on their worst instincts. If you see something else, that's on you.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3mo ago
You can point towards the right path with different language; your first phrase was unnecessary. If you can edit it, I'll restore it (or, if it can't be done, just repost your reply with some changes).
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Unfortunately, he no longer has access to edit it.
Just let it remain removed.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 2mo ago
I always get caught in the differences between this site and the lesser one. Oh, well, the cartoon, at least, was funny indeed.
Justanaverageguy 3mo ago
Women always complain that I never text first but they also label me as a “good guy” so who knows.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Nice guys finish last. Nice = Good. Don't be that man.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Dude. They complain about everything.
Ignore their mouth noises and just do what gets you the results you want.