Title is wrong - she did 2 rounds at 38 - she doesn't have 38 eggs. So, at max she has 2 eggs. But even she is doubtful of the quality of the eggs you can get from a 38 year old woman.

Anyhow - these women are bonkers - it takes more than an egg. It needs a decent womb. Which she doesn't have!

It's so strange reading women's posts - they all seem to agree that they want a lot of effort from mem (planning dates, picking places, paying). And they want chads to do this.

Do they all have amnesia? Do they not remember how it goes with Chads? Chads have one unifying feature: they don't put any effort in to getting laid. Zero. If we did, we wouldn't be chad. The very essence of chadliness is being able to just sit there at the bar, and women come over and you just say 'come on sweetie, we're getting out of here'.

Do they not remember what it was like when they were in their late teens early 20s? The way they use to drop the panties on command? No dates, no drinks, nothing?

Do they not remember going into the bathroom stall in the nightclub, and letting tyrone splash elaborate signatures in semen across their faces? Do they not recall how Chad simply took their hand and led them upstairs at the party, gently pushed them on the bed of coats and jackets, and then peeled off their panties (not even removing their shoes) and plunged it in without a condom?

The third date I planned and paid for

No, not that! You've done more than your fair share already, darling. Dump the zero! Jump on the hero!

I'm 64 and haven't haven't done any retirement savings. The worst part is that I haven't been able to find a retirement planner that I like. They keep saying that I'm way past the point of being able to save and that's it's my fault! They are such terrible people! Anyway, please tell me why it's everyone else's fault for my wasting my youth yet still having such absurd expectations.

It's funny how women that complain about men not moving to their schedules were themselves clearly never ever considering moving to a man's schedule either.

But of course we know that would require these women to regard men as fellow human beings with wants and needs of their own, and their own schedule for things.

If they haven't boned by the 4th date, he's moving on.

The time to freeze eggs isn't 38, it's before 25, and she knows it. And egg freezing has a very high failure rate. It's embryo freezing that works well.

They like to complain that the men want younger women, but don't consider that they ought to think of older men. I'm 59, and 39 would be right where I prefer a GF. Of course, I'd never take one that has such a bad case of baby rabies as this. And I'd never legally marry again in any case. But this sort of woman still has some utility left.

So I've been on four dates with this guy [...]. I have somewhat initiated them [...]. The third date I planned and paid for [...]. I expressed I am looking to dating intently and find a serious relationship.

If you were somewhere betweeen late teens and mid twenties, you'd be golden. Hell, you'd be on your way to the altar before the year ended. But now, it's just not genuine. You were kicked out of the carousel and you're looking for whatever you can get. If you were suddenly 20 y.o. again, like one of those bad romcoms, you'd do everything again, to be stuck in the same place again in your late 30s.

Men plans, and pays for dates which is more than coffee: Bare minimum

Woman plans, and pays for dates: Boss babe.

Women want to be desired: Guess what? Men as well. and in a personal level as well, at least for me. Being a means of an end isn't it, """dating with intent""" isn't it either (if not you then someone else - the desire is on the outcome not on the person who is the vessel of the outcome).

Also, is such a last minute clearance sale shengnu desirable in the first place?

He has not met me half way: should he? Is the halfway in any way rewarding? Dont tell me married men live longer or other pragerU BS debunked 20 billion times.

Scared : I am never married, but I have seen enough people to be scared of marriage.

Until now, I have not seen anything in the pictured thread that shows what exactly makes the woman valuable. Keen and rushing to a child isn't necessarily valuable.

Left over women don't realize the only single guys in their late 30s are autistic, divorced, or MGTOW. So they get confused when the autists wait 4 weeks to contact them, the divorcees won't commit, and the MGTOWs are absent. You could almost combine this flair with where are all the good men because it's the same phenomenon.

Women like this make me glad I had a vasectomy.

This woman doesn't realize that the reason that men aren't in a hurry to make her a wife is because she hasn't demonstrated that she's worth it.

They'll keep her for sex, but they won't commit to her. She's a 2 on the scale - she's good enough to fuck, but not good enough for a man to limit his options for.

"They all want younger women"

Women make this mistake all the time. They are just not being analytical enough. If they ran actually thought about it for 5 minutes, what they would discover is this;

Men that want to start a family want fertile women

That's the difference. We want fertility, not youth. If women only started ovulating at age 47, men that want to start a family would only be interested in women over 47.

Youth has nothing to do with it per se, its fertility.

And its not all men. Its men that want to start a family. There are plenty of men that don't want to start a family. They might not be interested in kids OR they might have already had their kids and are perhaps in their mid 50s and upwards.

She is simply not understanding her role in the value exchange / market between genders. She is basically 40 and therefore has no value to men that want to start a family.

He 'really likes hanging out with me' and has not had sex by 4th date....

I have discovered your problem lady.....he is gay