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Maturin_nj 3mo ago
The reality is that she's on the cusp of invisibility. It won't be long. It eventually hits them all. They become the eqivilent of the 21 year old pimply dude. She'll be forced to support the sort of younger guy that floats her boat.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I keep coming back to this post.
The JA situation is a priceless bit of learning - it shows that even if women win the game, they lose.
JA is wildly successful, beautiful, funny, rich beyond your wildest dreams, and...... she has lost the game. She is alone, lonely and desperate. And getting more desperate every week.
Stories like JA should be enough to warn younger women that they cannot win this game. If the SIW game didn't work for JA, its not going to work for some normie blooper with her 'great job' in HR.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
It was a good one, wasn't it?
Now that I've dislocated my shoulder patting myself on the back, I must say that I was quite pleased with all the commentary on here. I'd originally intended to come back and add a sticky comment, but RL interfered. By the time I started reading the comments, everyone had already said everything I'd intended to say!
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
What would you learn from this as a young woman?
It is possible to be happy as a woman. The way to do it is by taking your role as the centre piece of a family. By putting aside thoughts of men and thinking we. By building a family, and enjoying the miracle of children.
All of that is possible. You could choose that. There are many many good young men that want to build a family.
Or you could blow your fertile years riding the CC and behaving like a teenager, and then whine about it later.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
JA's whinging about how awful dating is reminds me of this wonderful comedian's take on modern life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdFB7q89_3U
When us men say we had a "horrible date", we mean someone being mentally abusive towards us, complaining continuously, apathetic or almost as bad, ambivalent.
In her own words, her worst date, quote, "a very handsome studio executive" pitched a movie he had written himself and for her.
You know, if a pretty woman told me she had written a story for me, I'd have been FLATTERED. Some asked for her autograph at the end (which is rather stupid, I'll agree, in that banging her would be a far better thing to brag about to (pun unintended), friends.
Or it was "BORING". Oh no! The Circus Clown failed to Entertain her!!! SHE can't find something interesting to talk about despite having worked in the, emphasis here, ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING PROFESSION IMAGINABLE!!! Nope, she wants to sit back and have the "leader" feed and please her. She wants "chemistry". Surprise her but DON'T BE WEIRD! Be, quote, "confident but not cocky". Walk on a tightrope for her 55 year old vag!
Like you said, here's a literal movie star whose getting taken out by HANDSOME movie executives and couldn't cut it, there's no way Jim from Accounting is going to please the "bored" middle aged HR harpie.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 3mo ago
The brutal reality is that dating exists for the purpose of procreation.
We all like to pretend it's more than that, but when it comes down to it: dating and sex exists for the purpose of procreation - that is how it evolved, that is how it perpetuates. Any genetic desire to date women over 50 is rapidly eliminated from the gene pool by virtue of the lack of offspring of people with those genes.
Perhaps we are all too polite about this reality. Perhaps women like to pretend that they (like men) have indefinite breeding potential. Perhaps men are not vocal enough about our preferences for women of child bearing age. I'm really not sure where the delusion comes from.
Brutal reality: female over 50 = no kids = no procreation = no interest.
There is a huge genetic disadvantage to approaching a woman over 50. All the social costs, none of the genetic advantages.
No amount of cat lady screeching about unfairness is going to change this.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Correct. This is another reason why women have always had the upper hand in the courtship phase. There will always be more men interested in women than women who can have kids. Men can have kids from around 13 (gross and not recommended) until the day we die. Women, that window is much lower, from around 13 (once again, gross and not recommended) to menopause. That is a 30 year window. But around ten years of that (the first five and last five) are useless. So that’s 20 years of actual dating viability, which is about 25-30% of women who are alive and walking around.
After age 50, when I see people pair up, it’s almost always because it’s a guy who benefits socially from not being single. If they could do better single, they’d be single. Like if I found myself single at 50, and i wanted to go to a hockey game, I’d call a friend or bring my kids or my nephews. I don’t need a woman around in order to pursue things I like. If anything, a woman makes it less likely, because now i’d have to keep her amused.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
"The brutal reality is that
datingsex exists for the purpose of procreation.""Dating" = a process where post wall washed up sluts get free resources from blue pilled beta bux losers and then don't have sex with them.
"Brutal reality: female over
5032 = no kids = no procreation = no interest."ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3mo ago
The rumor back in the day was that Brad Pitt and Aniston broke up because he wanted kids and she didn't because she wanted to focus on her career still.
Pitt went on to marry Angelina Jolie and have several step-kids plus 1 (maybe more? I don't really follow celeb news) child of his own.
Aniston made her choice. She already had massive fame, money, and glory from her stint on Friends. That is more career success than 99.9% of actors ever get. The residuals she earns from those reruns are so high that even her grandkids would never have to work a day in their lives. At that point, if a relationship and family were important to you, you'd de-prioritize your career and make room for other life's priorities. You've already succeeded by every career metric there is (fame, power, money, respect, etc). Lots of TV stars do that. But she didn't. Even being 100ft below the summit of Mt. Everest wasn't high enough for her. She had to reach the summit and so she kept climbing.
But as the old adage goes, anyone can climb a mountain, it's coming down the peak where most people die. Now that she's accomplished... whatever she thinks she accomplished in her post-Friends career (a few forgettable rom-coms?), she's coming down off the mountain, and realizing this is where her dreams die. She never did accomplish much after Friends in terms of respect of her acting abilities. She hasn't won an Oscar, or start getting compared to Meryl Streep. Sure, she made some more money, but she already gets plenty from Friends.
IOW, just like greedy mountaineers, who, after ascending 30,000 ft, kill themselves pursuing the last 100ft, she killed the rest of her life chasing the last 100ft of her career summit (while failing to actually hit that peak anyway). If she'd turned around at that point, she wouldn't have lost much of her career while hitting the lottery in her family life: it seems that Brad Pitt, despite being one of the hottest guys on the planet, is actually a pretty devoted and loyal family man; the rarest of Alpha Bux. But she spent what remained of her youth on pushing her career ever higher, and no longer has any reserve left on the hike down.
Ironically, Brad Pitt at the time was still just viewed as a boy toy. He went on to prove his acting chops and become one of the most respected multi-faceted actors of his generation while also running a successful production company with tons of power in Hollywood. And after dumping Aniston, he got his family too (although now divorce rape caught up with him as well). Maybe he should thank her for cutting him loose...
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I remember the propaganda machine shamed Brad back in the day. Because he jumped from Jennifer to Angelina so fast. But hey, Jennifer Aniston made her decision. It was more important to star in a few moderate box office successes than build something meaningful in her life. Now we just see her fume about JD Vance calling out women like her.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
I refer to women like her as "Bum magnets". Because they are repelled by decent men. And they become repellent to decent men too.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
People don'T come up to people any more.
That's your problem ma'am. Until now, we were not considered people in your radar. So fix it with your people ma'am. Not me. Thanks.
Also wasn't this the same woman who said that men are useless below 33?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
Nah, that was Hhhhhennifer Lopèź.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
ahhh thank you. i live under a rock, i have little idea of them celebrities
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
"People don't come up to people anymore" - no shit, because you "independent" (translation: Govt funded and societal tailwinds) women made it that way.
And this is coming from the same woman that had Brad Pitt in his early years. The fuck? How do you fuck up so bad that you move on from that? The best part, she is just fine being alone - no really - she loves being at home with her pets. Mega-cope.
If you haven't found 'the one' after your early years, you sure as fuck won't find him now.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Correction: People don't come up to HER anymore.
Any man good enough to be with Jennifer Aniston could easily be with a hot 20 year old, so why?
I just imagine she is a miserable person to be around. I wish her many years of loneliness and sadness.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
You mean divorcing the proverbial diety of female desire hypotheticals ("would a girl xyz if it were Brad Pitt?") and then getting divorced again, being popularly known for your nips poking through your shirt, and taking that one risque photo of yourself fully naked in just a tie with two jacked and also nude male models only attracts red flags?
Who'd have thunk?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
argh.
People aren't red flags; people have red flags.
And you have some vcards!
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
"People don't come up to people anymore"
This.
This is clear evidence of the kind of delusional thinking that characterises the way women think. Because nobody approaches her any more (because she is impotent and infertile) she assumes that nobody is being approached, by anybody, "any more". That's right folks - because the main character is not getting approached, that must mean, that nobody is getting approached.
You see what she did there? Freud talks a lot about the Id and the ego. In the mind of delusional patient, the id is so strong that it will change perceptions of reality, in order to protect the ego. JA's id is prepared to make up fictions about how nobody is approaching anyone just to avoid discomfort.
This is woman-think. Delusional thinking is insanity.
And its a normal day at work for the female brain.
redhawkes 3mo ago
This is known as solipsism.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Is it though?
"Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's mind is sure to exist. As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind"
I think the modern woman is doing something slightly different. They are not saying that the external world is uncertain and diffcult to know.
The modern female is saying things like 'men don't approach any more' which is very different. She is sure that nobody is getting approached, because she is not getting approached. Her brain is altering reality to benefit her ego.
As a consequence, she has a diminished ability to perceive reality, for the payoff of protecting her ego. This is the very definition of mental illness. All mental illness have this one thing in common - a diminished ability to perceive reality accurately.
She (and the other inspins) have actually gone insane in order to preserve their ego, in order to not have to face the consequences of their actions.
it's so obvious from her words that she is entirely un-repentant. She has done nothing wrong. No life choices were incorrect in her mind. Only the actions of others are incorrect.
She is insane.
redhawkes 3mo ago
Nah bro, this is just her hamster on steroids. That's ego protective mechanism that protects her from cognitive dissonance. They'll believe any bullshit to avoid consequence, astrology, horoscope any chick crack..
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Right - but its' a bit simplistic to keep saying 'hamster' for everything.
I was trying to be more precise about the actual mechanism by which these inspins actually go insane.
Just saying 'hamster' all the time is not very insightful.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
“But she’d rather be alone at home with her dogs than on a date with another boring guy ......that asks her to split the bill"
That's right. She's worth about $300m...but you still got to pay for dinner. For dinner with an infertile, impotent, entitled, dried up, insane, entitled hag.
Where do I sign up?
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Made me think of:
"Say hello to Lumbergh for me!"
See, that's it, she was railed by Lumbergh. Case closed.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
That statement blared out her entitlement. She says she would settle for a blue collar guy with a dad bod but that's probably her hope to virtue signal to make it sound like a handsome studio executive or movie star should settle for her. Shallow women proclaim virtue in an attempt to trick HVM into it.
I went through a similar epiphany back in my early 30's: I was annoyed that high income career women were getting nasty with me if I asked them to pay their way and finally I went on a date with one, who was just below my very modest appearance standards who offered to pay her way and I surrendered: I had filtered out 99% of women with this standard and painted myself into a corner. Fine, I was going to pay for dates with a smile from then on but now I could be a lot more demanding. I married a pretty woman about 4 years later.
An aging hypergamous woman friend of mine sneered at me that I married a pretty girl but what she didn't want to hear is that I had compromised. I paid for the dates, I made an "effort" to get the relationship to work, and so on. Her "system" (she's a dating book author who is still single) was to be more demanding of men so only "worthy" men need apply. She did exactly the opposite of my strategy. I opened up one filter to give me more choices while she put on more filters on trivial things.
Jennifer Anniston has decided that a good relationship, one that would make her happy, isn't worth the price of a dinner date. Or approaching someone with a minimal risk of rejection (nobody would scream at her for harassing them). Or putting up with some boring chit chat over lunch. She MUST be entertained. She is a PRINCESS whose 55 years YOUNG!
Another thing: Her griping about "hell". Some producer showed her a script. My first big dinner date with my wife was a disaster. We went to a movie that she picked and the movie was terrible. I laughed. She laughed. We still found a way to have fun.
JD Vance triggered her bad. Hilarious. If JD wanted to piss off millions of leftover women, I can't see what more he could do: https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/25/entertainment/jennifer-aniston-jd-vance/index.html
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
Hahaha! I like this guy more and more.
That article might be good weekend fodder under "inspin tears" of you'd like to post it (archive.is link of course).
Hell, I'll make a special "inspin tears - celebrity edition!" flair and re-flair it with that once you post it.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
Nevermind. Posted.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
RichWhiteWomenDinnerFund°com
It's like tinder but rich white women post how much their preferred dinner is and where. Swipe her next free meal today. This is a premium site, only 4 and 5 star restaurants.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
It sounds awesome. But wtf with '4 star' restaurants bro.
She knows her worth. 4 star?
get the fuck out of here with your cheap ass 4 stars.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
Fuck u. I take her to 4 star restaurants after a little pregame and i tell her it's a 5 star so she believes it.
Then i give her 4 star dick afterwards so fuck you
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
My mom said your dick was 3.5 star at best.
No wait..........
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
I'm your dad now, bitch
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
be gentle with me daddy
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
I only go harder
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Jen can't find a man. A man to her is someone worth $400,000,000 to her $300,000,000. She could never date a man who is worth less than her. OMG!!! Then the man would have to look like her first husband, only better and have a 18"dick.
She could have any man she wanted, but she wants the top 0.0000000000000000000000001%. Good luck with that.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
It's wild.
She won the game. She was there, with the triple crown and you know what she did? She decided that it wasn't good enough.
THEN SHE WON AGAIN! And she, again, fucked it up.
That's like hitting the Powerball for 8 billion, blowing it, hitting the Powerball AGAIN then thinking "this time I'm gonna... Nope, gonna blow it."
She, above all women past and present, deserves her loneliness.
wswZtyqNGQ 3mo ago
She's another Napoleon on Elba, busy blaming everyone else for their hubris and epic failures.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
it's actually worse that what you describe.
Because if the most handsome, tallest, younger man, with a 10 pack, a 20 inch dick, worth $400m, brain surgeon, were to fall in love with her, she would get the dry for him.
Why? because obviously a man that loves her is beta.
She only wants an alpha!!!!!
JudgeSmales 3mo ago
Most women are NPCs, and they know deep down that their sole dating value to men is as a P-sleeve. Actual, durable self-esteem must be earned, and most women have none because they have never accomplished anything (a degree in Grievance Studies doesn't count). Most women are boring and incurious, and have few "hobbies" that don't somehow involve mimosas.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
I read a story from someone who claims this actually happened: A girl was lusting after some hot guy dreaming he'd ask her out and the guy went up to her, asked her out, and she dried up because being asked out in a formal way was so "beta".
The PUA game of being cool and asking them for directions, spending about 15 minutes or so warming them up like a Chevy Suburban at 8AM on a New England winter morning with chit chat, and then casually asking her if she knows any good places that have Japanese food is how they want it to happen.
Or he goes up to her and asks her to hang out for netflix and she hopes he somehow falls in love with her after the hookup somehow.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
This is accurate.
But what happens later, when the chad that picked her up develops feels for her? and they get into an LTR?
I'll tell you - she will get the dry. How do I know? It's the story of my life.
Most men misunderstand this dynamic. They think that women lust after certain kinds of men (tall, handsome, rich etc) and that if one of those men were to settle down with her, she would carry on lusting after him. WRONG
What they really want is ill-treatment. What gets the panties moist is ill treatment, drama, insincerity, ghosting and indifference. The minute chad commits, the panties dry up and she'll start looking around for some guy that will provide what she really wants - to be treated like dog shit.
JudgeSmales 3mo ago
I'm sure some/most women who read this article commiserated with Jennifer Aniston, but if women were capable of honest self-reflection, this article should scare them to death.
It's similar to the popular men's meme: "If Tom Brady couldn't keep Gisele happy, what chance do I have to not get divorce-graped if I get married?"
If women were thinking clearly, they wouldn't read this article and think "You go girl." They would be worried that if the wealthy Aniston can't find a mate after having had Mr. Dreamboat Brad Pitt, what chance do they have? I would even argue that Aniston (despite being 55) appears to be reasonably well preserved "for her age," so what chance does a childless 30-year-old frump have?
There are already tons of lonely inspins out there, and if/when the economy takes a dive, they are really going to be on their own. It's going to be every man, and every m'lady, for themself.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
We really ought to start a go-fund me for JA. Apparently, she is down to her last $300m!
Oh the humanity.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
She wants to go on a date?
Well, I don't mind older chicks, they can be fun.
best I can do is this: she can come around, pick me up, take me to a nice pub in the country. I'll give her a swift rogering around the back (up against the bins) come in her hair, wipe my cock on her dress and then go back inside to play some pool with my mates.
Thats my final offer.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Play this music in the background as you read the article https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMmXCKxwa0k
TJMS 3mo ago
Phoebe, how dare you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moI7M0e404A
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
“Jen tells a great story about one of the worst dates she’s ever been on,” says the source. “It was with a very handsome studio executive who brought an envelope to their dinner date. After a few minutes of small talk, he pulled out a screenplay for a slasher-horror-film-meets-rom-com he was working on. Not only did he write it, but he also wanted to be in it, opposite Jen as the star. She was flabbergasted.”
This is hilarious. She is spinning it her way - if we were to listen to the guys side of the story it would be this;
"I set up a meeting with JA, and showed her the script, and she got all pissy with me, because she thought that we were on some sort of romantic date? Like wtf. It was 1.30pm, middle of working day. I mean, she wasn't even our first choice for the role, because she's like 200 years old and bat shit crazy, but...wtf? She thought I was taking her on a date? My gf is like younger than her daughter. FFS!!!"
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3mo ago
That was my first thought too. A handsome studio exec who can greenlight a movie? If he isn't already married, that dude is banging 20 year old starlets who are sucking his dick hoping to play bimbo #3 on his next slasher pic.
The key was saying "after a few minutes of small talk". This sounds like a business meeting. If he was really so dastardly as to try to first win her over romantically before slipping in her the script, he would have wined and dined her first, and then maybe later in the evening bring up the movie. He clearly saw this as a business meeting, with a little chitchat to break the ice and then moving onto business, and she was thinking it was something more.
What do women say when a guy misinterprets a friendly dinner as a date? "You pig! Just because we went to dinner and I let you pay for it, doesn't mean I owe you sex! Don't you know we're just friends?!" Sounds about right...
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
if you're 5"3, fat, hairy back, bald, and an ugly jew, and you're a studio exc / producer that can allocate roles in movies..... you're going to be swimming in young beautiful pussy. The hot 23 year old sluts are going to be fighting each other for the right to suck your cock.
You are certainly NOT going to be hitting up a 55 year old for some dusty pussy.
Most women are insane. You can only imagine just how insane JA is after a life time of getting exactly what she wants and having a staff of about 12 people to follow her around all day saying yes all the time
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3mo ago
But only if you've got the moves of Les Grossman! https://youtu.be/vELWgAc9p2o?si=wo2tuB5j9y46D4dA
But seriously though I wonder if #metoo has actually dampened this. When random women can retroactively cry rape and completely derail your career if not have criminal charges, I wonder if guys in this position say "fuck it" and just go on sex trips in Dubai or somewhere else where American girls don't have jurisdiction.
It's ironic that, whatever good it might have done for victims of real abuse and assault, it had massive collateral damage on the much larger group of women who willingly used sex to get ahead.
A bunch of aging sexless "feminist" harpies craft a policy that eliminates their younger, better looking "sisters" competitive advantage for guys, jobs, etc, all in the name of their protection. Funny how that works...
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
Fucking classic hahaha
PoopBeast 3mo ago
I love this. What a great example of classic chick damage control.
This is first and foremost an article about a woman's unhappiness, and slow realizations about the ramifications of her decisions. On the other hand, there are, confusingly, all these little defiant copes like when it says she "loves being her own woman", implying she doesn't regret her decisions (even though this is obviously untrue) and pot-shots at men that would make the uninitiated almost feel like the point of the article is to say that her decisions were "worth it" because of how bad the men she's dated (and by extension all men) must be. So much contradiction.. It reminds me a lot of all the other contradictory female lamentations we see on the Internet ("booh hooh, I'm so jealous of other couples... oh, but I'd never settle..."), the only difference is that this is a celebrity, so she has a bigger platform.
It solidifies the notion I've had lately that pride is truly a modern woman's worst enemy. They'd rather die than just admit; "I fucked up. This wasn't worth it. I'm hurting. I need a man in my life." Welp, if you're not going to pick a lane and admit it, then I'm going to take you at your word, ignoring what we both know is true.
In other words, if you're going to act like your decisions were all "worth it", and talk as if men are so detestable, then I'm going to say "good! Fuck off and enjoy the bed that you've made. After all, you said you don't regret it. You should be happy."
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I don't think Pride is the thing that gets them there.
I think its delusional thinking.
The delusional thinking is a form of mental illness. It's also the reason why they never ever see the errors of their ways.
PoopBeast 3mo ago
I feel like pride could also explain that. Not being able to admit their mistakes or articulate that they need a man is what makes me lean towards pride, but I definitely think they have delusions as well.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
They're always independent. That caveat is always in these posts lmao, they will never admit it
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
They are "Independent". But....they want a man. Not just any man. They want an alpha man. So that he can then.....do whatever she wants???
Do they not see how insane their mission is?
Here's the thing... if these 'independent' women did manage to find an alpha man that was suddenly going to adapt his life to her whims...she would get the dry instantly. What they are asking for is something that would not work for them or him.
They are asking for something that would never make them happy. Basically, modern women are all a version of that groucho marx quote -
"I'd never want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member"
These women are so broken that its impossible, literally impossible, for them to ever be happy.
They think its because they can't find the right man, when in reality, they have found the right man over and over and over, and it never works because of their 'preferences'.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
Okay, here me out, I'm tired but maybe here is a new hypothesis to explain these kind of women.
Yes, it's nonsensical. You could argue she could meet the most alpha dgaf guy ever with virtually perfect frame such that she could ultimatum, try to sex drip him for control, etc and he could still break her her independent woman shtick after bashing heads together for months or years.
This would be consistent with current RP thinking. Independent runaway ego woman gets humbled by Chad into being a submissive femine saint or whatever. By i think that misses what is going on here because at some point this theory breaks down when a woman is so full of herself as to be unsaveable from her own masculine journey.
I'm starting to think with women like this in particular, what they might be looking for is ambitious good dick that commits, not as a masculine force to compliment a submissive femine personality, but as just a dick and tingles outlet for the stress they feel at work.
I think these women start to think like overworked men who just want to come home to a good blowjob, dinner and company.
Maybe I'm wrong but these women aren't looking for any kind of traditional relationship dynamic but rather a work relief dildo that validates them yet is comparable to their own "success"
So basically a dildo that co-exists with their main character syndrome, doesn't expect them to step down from a busy work schedule, etc
So basically these women don't want to be what successful, high SMV men want, so their relationship desires are unreasonable to begin with
However, if my theory is correct, that's what these women are actually looking for even if no man meeting that description would want them in return
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I think I understand your argument, but I think I disagree.
You wrote
"So basically these women don't want to be what successful, high SMV men want, so their relationship desires are unreasonable to begin with
However, if my theory is correct, that's what these women are actually looking for even if no man meeting that description would want them in return"
My argument is different. My argument is that if she met her ideal man, and that ideal man fell in love with her and committed to her... she would get the dry for that man BECAUSE that man committed to her
This is the mechanism at the very heart of the issue. Women like JA are only excited by unsuitable men. If / when they meet their dream unsuitable man, and they get together, the women will get the dry from that man because he loves her.
They are broken beyond repair. They will never be happy, because it is impossible for them. If badboyz are your thing, you will be alone forever. There are so many women like this - Pamela Anderson, Kylie Minogue, Jennifer Lopez etc etc.
Those are just the celeb versions. But in real life, the essence of modern woman is to make your own childish emotional whims the centre piece of your life.
I have lived this experience close up. I have never had any issues picking up women. I figured it all out in my early 20s. All you have to do is be asshole / badboy, treat them with insincerity, be a narcissist / sociopath, cheat on them and they will be like a puppet whose stings you control. Then, as life goes on, you try to form a meaningful LTR with them, and the pussy dries up.
If there is one thing I would like to pass on - its not the man, its the role. The same man can be a panty moistener, or a panty drier. It depends on his role.
When I treat women like the dog shit that they are, they can't get enough of it. The moment I love them, the panties start drying up.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
@Vermillion-Rx
I think you're describing that sometimes women really do just want a no-strings-attached relationship that satisfies their sexual needs/urges. This being more or less a conscious decision. I think this is a true and accurate phenomenon, because I have frequency heard women say that they "don't want a relationship right now".
@Lone_Ranger
I think you're describing a phenomenon where women get the dry if any man commits to them. I think this reflects a broken person with perhaps some serious self-esteem issues.
As for JA, I'd be interested in what she really wants, but sadly, I don't think she really know - even at 52. Frankly, I don't know what she could possibly want; family is not an option. Soon the only people around her will only people on the payroll. What's her 'why'?
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
I'm not referring to no strings attached. I'm referring to women with main character syndrome who want a committed Chad but for the Chad to not have the main character plot.
I'm not describing NSA at all. I describing an illusionary version of a commited relationship where there is no captain and first mate but rather a first mate that has a token captain with no real command
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
So, would you say this is a relationship but not a real relationship - but where Chad is really just a toy or a token?
I might be splitting hairs on defining what a relationship is. Where is a good dictionary when you need one?
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
Let me clarify. A relationship to THEM. Not a relationship as people might think of two people having some kind of relationship TOGETHER.
Like I said. A Chad that coexists in their main character plot. Not an actual relationship partner with so e semblance of autonomy and control of their own destiny.
So basically a dildo as a boyfriend. Something Chad won't be. Chad will have his own mission and dreams and be the main character in most people's plots. An existence that is just incompatible with what these certain women want
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
yup - a woman that wants an ultra chad but for the chad to pander to her wishes.
Women like JA have had that, over and over - they have had their dream man - but the woman will get the dry for this man over and over.
And the reason? Because the man committed to her. Loving a woman causes the dryness in the panties.
Most woman are like this. They are fundementally not capable of being happy. If / when they get what they want, they don't want it any more.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3mo ago
I still think this is somewhat circumstantial. There are a lot of high sex marriages. I don't think it can be applied to all marriages. Less sex than when single sure but i don't think it's 100/100
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
"There are a lot of high sex marriages" ... according to whom? have you been married?
Men lie about how much sex they get inside of marraige, because they don't want to admit it. They don't want to admit to be married incels.
one the low points of my last marriage was in the middle of an argument, my wife called me 'an incel'. it was a profound realisation for me. I realised she was right.
The other thing I realised - she was no longer attracted to me because I was an incel. I was literally an incel. I was 'involuntarily celibate'. And the reason I was an incel? because my wife didn't want to bang me. And the reason she didn't want to bang me?
Because I was an incel. The most unattractive male trait (for women) is incel. Nothing gives a woman that dry like incels.
And that is what you will become as a married man. Your wife will very quickly loose attraction for you because you are not getting any.
When I met my wife she was mad for it. She used to come so quick we used to joke that she suffered from 'premature ejaculation'. She would often come in less than a minute. Scroll forward a few years and she is calling me an incel.
Same man, different roles.
The fact that you think that 'there are a lot of high sex marriages' leads me to believe that you are still somewhat buying into the fairy tale of blue pill romantic love. I hate to break it to you - marriage will always lead to less sex. Always. No woman is going to desire a man that only fucks her.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
A) high sex marriages exist. They're rare, but they exist.
B) there's no such thing as a married incel. If you're married, and your wife won't put out, and you choose to remain faithfully celibate, you are voluntarily doing so. Been there.
PoopBeast 3mo ago
No offense, but we can either believe the men who are married who say they are in high sex marriages, or we can believe you, who hasn't really established their bona fides beyond having been married before. Different people will draw different conclusions.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Sure.
I'm merely pointing out what has been know for centuries - marriage is the graveyard of desire. We've always known that. What is slowly emerging is that it is more so for women. That very thing that they say they want (a committed LTR) is the very thing that dries their panties.
There is good reason why this fact (that women go off sex in an LTR) is hiding in plain sight. It's because most men really don't want to admit that they are married incels. There is a great deal of shame for men in admitting that they 'aren't getting any'. You could argue that men and women experience polar opposite shaming when it comes to sex - women are slut shamed, but men are incel-shamed.
It's very rare of a successful attractive man to fess up, and publicly state, "I'm not getting any at home"
The man is always blamed, for everything.
My story is just one of many. The strange thing is that most people would describe me as 'very attractive' I'm not bragging or anything, but I'm often reffered to as 'the silver fox'. I'm 6"3, quite well built, good looking, wealthy and succesful. But every single time I get into an LTR, the woman loses interest in sex over time, and you end up as a locked in incel. I'm just about to get divorced raped for the second (and final) time because of this issue.
When I talk to men one on one, close friends, they will admit in private what they would never admit in public: their wives are not interested in them sexually. Why would they be? Committment kills desire for women. Not for me.
There are some old cliches that are true, some are false and some are the exact opposite of what is happening in reality.
The blue pilled trad story is that men loose interest in their wives, and run off with the baby sitter (avatar for younger woman) because they are 'bastards'. This cliche hides the actual truth.
Most men never stop desiring their wives. Even when their wives are getting older, even when they wives become infertile. Men carry on desiring the wife, but the wife stops desiring the husband quite quickly, and the cause of the lack of desire is two fold
You can disagree with me all you like - I'm trying to pass on a lifetime of learning through failing.
Many men will make the mistake that I made - I settled down with a woman with whom I had fantastic sex, thinking that I would be very happy to have sex with only that woman for the rest of my life. In fact, my desire only grew for my wives. I never got bored of either of them. the more I had sex with them, the more I desired them. Bear in mind - I would never have agreed to marry a woman with whom the sex was not amazing.
As time went on, the women I loved gradually started to withdraw from sex. It was always the same story - it went from awesome sex to bland sex to no sex.
Speak to any man one-to-one. The stories are all familiar. Men run off with younger women not because they don't love their wives - its because their wives friend zone their husbands. They stop desiring their husbands (because of the LTR and suitability) and then they see that their husbands are incels, which creates a vicious circle.
You may be young. I'm in my mid 50s. I have several male friends - our stories are all familiar. this is something that you will only ever encounter in honest conversation.
I encourage you to go to mens groups. Talk honestly with other men about life experiences. Especially older men.
Moral of the story - don't think you are an exception. Marriage dries the panties. My learning, from 30 years of failing, is that marriage should only be considered as a vehicle for raising children. The sole benefit that marriage might give you is that it might allow you to create a family. (bear in mind 50% of those families break up).
Marriage is not a vehicle for romance - it is the opposite. It will kill romance stone dead. It is a vehicle for creating a family.
Statements like 'there are high sex marraiges' is all that young men need in order to make the mistakes that I made.
PoopBeast 3mo ago
Interesting. You're certainly giving me something to consider.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3mo ago
I half way agree with you. They want that type of relationship at different stages of their life.
I'll call it the John Meyer phase. Lots of people have scratched their heads about how a few not terribly desirable guys in Hollywood like John Meyer or Pete Davidson seem to plough through so many hot Hollywood actresses. And I think it's because they go through this "I just need a dick at night and no one that puts more demands on me that might affect my career". I suspect this is even what women really mean when they refer to "Big Dick Energy": guys who will fuck them good, but otherwise "go with the flow" and make no other demands on their life.
This is not limited to Hollywood stars or women climbing the corporate ladder. Interviews with college women and post-college women also find this. Lots of them say they're too busy with their studies or the early phase of starting their careers that they don't have time for a real relationship. They just need a fuck buddy for when they're horny but otherwise leaves them alone. If you're a mid-twenties Chad who's actually interested in marriage you'll find plenty of young women on that career track who will willingly fuck you, even be your girlfriend (which may not involve much emotional intimacy, but just an agreement to fuck each other on demand and no one else), but don't want to marry you because it's not the right time. If you actually want to get married at that age, you'll need to look at girls who have chosen less demanding career tracks (hence the meme of going after school teachers and nurses).
So I agree this phenomenon exists. Even Aniston apparently hooked up with John Meyer and other fuck bois at some time. But I don't think that's what Aniston is looking for now. Aniston's career is over. She's 55, and she never transitioned from young roles. While she's not a slouch in acting, she doesn't have the chops to transcend her age and compete for the few roles that exist for older women, like Meryl Streep or Judi Dench. She's still working, but she's clearly on the downslope of her career arc.
I don't mean to insult her by saying this. Most guys hit the peak of their career in their late 40s, early 50s and then start slowing down after that too. They may even make more money as they continue to get promoted but they become more of a mentorship role for newer promising talent. It's a normal career arc even outside of Hollywood.
Given that, Aniston is now going through her epiphany phase. She's finally realizing that she might be alone for the rest of her life. This isn't just a little dry spell before some other guy comes around. There's no one left. I'm sure she can still get some dick. Even from hot young guys if that's her thing, people who want to brag that they fucked Rachel from Friends. And I'm sure there are older guys who would be willing to put her in their rotation, play pretend boyfriend for when she's horny but otherwise leave her alone, as you theorize she wants.
But I suspect that's no longer what she's looking for. She's facing her mortality. At that age, you start to ask questions like who'll be there for me when I get sick? Who will remember me when I die? What type of legacy am I leaving in this world? What's the point of all this success if there's no one to witness it and share it with me? Is there anyone in the world who truly cares about me?
If your midlife crisis in your forties is all about whether you've accomplished anything in your career and changed the world the way you expected to, I'd argue your late-life crisis is all about your relationships, and whether you ever formed the type of deep connections (longterm spouse, children, family ties, friendships) that will allow your memory to live on after you're gone.
Aniston will be able to hire an army of nurses to wipe her ass if/when the day comes that she needs it. Millions of people will be watching Friends reruns for decades after she's gone. But those aren't real connections. It doesn't replace the closeness you build with someone that's actually a part of your life, who really, truly knows you. I'm sure she has close friends and perhaps other family members as well, but even that's not the same as a relationship with your own spouse and children. And I bet that's what she's looking for.
Unfortunately she's double fucked in that regard. First, the type of man that she wants to build that type of close relationship with is no longer interested in her. She can say she's open to dating a blue collar guy but she's lying. Just the fact that she mentions it as "blue collar guy" shows she evaluates guys first on their career and second on other traits. To be more charitable to her, a blue collar guy likely won't understand her. They come from two different worlds, and he probably wouldn't understand what drives and animates her, or what her problems and concerns are, anymore than she would understand his. Bridging such a wide gap can be done but it's hard. For example, not many people can discuss the money troubles or issues that people worth $300mil can have. It's not all roses and rainbows.
Secondly, even if she finds such a man, she's running out of time to build such closeness with them. There's something to be said for finding someone young and building your life with them. There's a shared experience there that can't be replicated. Finding someone at 55, means you'll live maybe 1/3 of your life together, and that's after most of your life's big milestones have passed (like your job, your first marriage, kids, etc). People can still find happiness, but it's fundamentally a different type of relationship than one where 2 people in their twenties started their lives together.
To take one example. Forget about having kids of her own. That has passed. But even if a future husband comes with his kids, they're likely to be nearly fully grown. While she'll technically be their stepmother, it's not like she will be raising them. Being a step-parent to a two year old, you can develop the same closeness as a biological parent and love them like they're your own. Being a step-parent to a teenager or twenty year old is something different. It can still be good, and even close, but it's not the same as a relationship with a child you helped raise from when they were little.
I think these are the things going through her mind. The type of relationship that would bring her happiness in her later years is now largely off the table, both because she can no longer attract the type of man she'd want to build it with, and she lacks the decades of time it usually takes to build it. This is now dawning on her, and she's desperately seeing if there's any last chance at this type of relationship before it's gone forever. Unfortunately, I doubt she'll be successful.