Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
kevin32
Posted 2mo ago in The Big Question - Permalink - Locked - 12.4K Views
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
- 9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago Stickied
Dude, that comment was rife with rule 1 violations.
Can you not warn other men of what they're in for should they become involved with a woman like her without shitting on those men for not knowing any better?
CC: @moorekom, @lurkerhasarisen, @deeplydisturbed, @woodsmoke, @impressive-cricket-8
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2mo ago
Fuck off woman. Like you want that. Fucking purity romance LARP who are you fooling, hoe.
Any healthy woman embracing her feminity wants a good dicking GTFO
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Hence why if she isn’t wanting sex from you, she’s either unhealthy or getting it elsewhere.
Pic889 2mo ago
She is a born-again virgin, she wants to maintain her born-again virginity you ignorant mansplainer!
/sarcasm tag just in case
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
She wants a dicking, just not from the provider, that what the Chads are for.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
I mean, the evidence that she fucks is visibly stretching her belly to humongous proportions, so who the fuck does she think she's fooling?!
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2mo ago
I'm not sure it's fooling many dudes anymore. Shit is mainstream red pill/MGTOW/whatever
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
That wouldn't have fooled anyone even before all those things existed.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2mo ago
Facts
orbilius 2mo ago
I mean, she's probably still going to be fucking that guy. She wants you to be """"intimate without sex"""" which, I presume means romantically giving her your credit card, and sensually paying her rent.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
Yup. A man that wants to live his best life will filter billsexual and "bisexual" women from his commitment pool. Neither is worth a damn long term.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I have saved this from "The Land of the Losers" He is gifted more than I can praise.
In her fun years, she fucked for fun, but now it's time to "get serious" and put out an ad for daddy applications. Up until now, she'd ask dudes at bars for free drinks or appetizers and they'd give them to her. So why not do the same for a provider daddy-type? His needs, as always, are immaterial. A Good Man is there to provide. It's what he should want to do, unquestioningly, no matter how little there is in the deal for him. It's what he should scramble to do, and if he doesn't want to, then he's not a Good Man. He's not supposed to be acting in rational self-interest, he's supposed to be acting in HER interest, like the unthinking, self-sacrificing, non-human workhorse he should be.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Browbatting
Eyelid batting
How dare thou? You want sex? for pleasure? That's just lust ! that's just sin!
Why isn't your interest having a "FaMiLy" with family game nights and family trips and mortgages that you pay for ?
Since your self interest is lust, you should not even exist.
(My Aunt, to me, about a similar discussion about an arranged marriage with an Indian girl, also an immigrant like me)
Paraphrased
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
While there is certainly less of that in the church circles I revolve in, it's still common to give young men guilt trips for wanting sex in marriage. I just laugh because it was certainly like 90% why I got married.
Best thing to do in situations where people put labels on you like "racist" or "selfish" is to own it. Just agree and move on. The midwits that slap labels on you without defining them or bothering to ask what you think don't deserve a defense.
"Yes, aunt, I'm a selfish sex maniac, so please get me two wives because I don't think one would be enough. Thanks."
Also there are very few Indian women worth marrying. They are loud, obnoxious, manipulative, controlling, and their "feet are never at home" as the Bible says. But what do I know, I'm just racist :)
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Oh, good response i shall save that.
Also, in those terms, I am not just racist, I am also a race traitor, because I not looking to "marry an indian girl" - and almost
EVERYONE
, indian, black, white, etc thinks I amIt's funny al right, but also f..king draining
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Regarding "patient": I'm a very patient man, but I do not enjoy having my patience tried. Also, I'm quite rational in my decision to remain patient; I need to see that my patience will pay off.
How would being involved with you pay off? If anything, it appears to be all cost and no gain.
Regarding "wanting to be a step dad" [paraphrased]: no man actually wants to be a step-dad. They put up with it because of some combination of either having no other options (or not realizing they have other options), or the single mom is one of those rare beings who realizes that she had better add some serious value to offset the baggage she brings.
Yeah, you're also a pile of delusions and baggage.
Edit:
...said after listing a bunch of conditions.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
That implies to me, that her pretty face can be taken as a given truth. Press F to doubt
... which the man you are looking for can't include in his expectations. So does it even count?
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2mo ago
Selective patience is more of a virtue than general patience, change my view
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
I would, but I don't have the patience to do that right now.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
She reminds me of a woman I posted about 2 weeks ago who griped that the ideal man she "needed" (even though she's independent) was hard to find, and then griped that the men who met those conditions actually had minor requirements of her. She gripes about perhaps having to have a long distance relationship. So What? Passport Bros do just that.
A friend's early 20's daughter whose not high on looks said she thought I was a "loser" for having met my wife online and gone around the world for her. Well, I have a relationship and she doesn't. I think in many of these women's minds: "not settling" is winning where even if they have nothing, they didn't "lower their standards" so they get respect from other women.
And that's something to think about. I have sometimes made personal sacrifices for the purposes of what I believe are principles to be respected although I would have done so even if all of my friends didn't respect them. These women aren't technically wanting a relationship with a man for herself, but rather to get acceptance from the female hivemind.
"intimate without sex" is one of the most "no effort" things (a term now popular with the entitlement queens) she could say. Sex is the easiest things for a woman to provide particularly if she wants a "sexy man". Whatever happened to women just faking orgasms?
I chuckle about her claiming to provide cooking: If she's like most EQ's, she'll demand paid dinner dates where she eats restaurant food paid for by the man taking her culinary talents (literally) off of the table.
Note that The Big Question doesn't mean she necessarily wants or needs an answer since any answer will involve actual effort and change on HER part.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
When women diss men for getting women overseas, it's because they think the reason we do it is for the same reason they would do it: taking advantage of the poor, uneducated, green card-wanting chaps because they can't get a man at home.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
Well, no (sorry to quibble). They are NOT willing to "take advantage" of some poor, uneducated, man from overseas because they don't want to do that at home, do they? There are plenty of handsome, poor men available they could marry but they don't. They do sleep around with some and may get accidentally knocked up, but that's a different kettle of fish.
With this political year featuring abortion as a key issue, it's a useful thought to ponder in that many of these women wanting men to "lead" lack the ability to engage in responsible contraception during their rutting sessions. They don't want to bring condoms or ask him to put one on so they need abortion as a Plan B.
In the past, say back in the early 1980's, such women would have dismissed normie passport bros without a second thought but imagine the narcissistic rage that ensues when a modern woman who is otherwise quite pretty looking but aging sees someone such as, well, me walking by with a pretty girl on his arm pushing a baby carriage. Imagine being born with a silver spoon in your mouth and winding up living in a trailer park at age 50.
That said, I find these media clips rather amusing such as "Jewelry Party": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byh74sImWh4
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Think again. There's a whole documentary about. I even met some of these women overseas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUAyz-ym9d8
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I’ve never seen that before. It’s interesting. Swap the genders and it isn’t funny, it’s just a given in our society.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I have no problem with that. I also have my doll, because I dont want to settle for leftover prunes, or gold diggers waiting at the finish line or just before it.
OH, wait....
Oh me the sweet summer adult - i was completely oblivious. You had be in the first part..
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that unconditional love does not exist, and that the idea of such should be tampered down. Others here might have a different opinion.
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NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Agree. I do believe "love" exists, but even then it's really hard to define or pin down, especially when it conflicts with "love" for something else. Adding the modifier doesn't seem to help.
My brother-in-faith once told me to never use the phrase "servant leader" with women because they just use it to get men to do anything they want. They have no idea what it means, nor do they care.
I think this phrase is similar. "You have to treat me exactly the same no matter what I do." That's how it's generally used, in the same way as "servant leadership" or "don't judge me".
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 2mo ago
The problem with the phrase “servant leader” is that the people who use it do so very selectively. (Full disclosure: although I’m an old-school TradCon, I acknowledge that most of the people who claim the label are alarmingly selective about which parts they embrace.)
A servant leader is a leader who puts the welfare of his subordinates above his own. That’s as it should be, but where today’s TradCon LARPers go awry is that while they embrace the requirement for the leader to put the team before himself, they completely ignore that the leader has near-absolute authority to lead, which means that those who are being sacrificed for have a near-absolute duty to obey.
Telling men to lead and holding them responsible for the actions of those they are leading without demanding that women follow (and holding them accountable when they don’t) is just bloopie nonsense.
If nobody is following, you’re not leading, and putting the word “servant” in front doesn’t change that. If you’re leading a parade and there are no floats or marching bands behind you, you’re not a Major Domo: you’re just jaywalking.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
You sort of proved what my friend told me: You and I can have that conversation, because men who actually care about their subordinates understand what that means (and what it does NOT mean).
Women don't care what it means, they only care about word salad because they can get men to perform by using it.
Exact same thing with "unconditional love". Women don't care what it means. Women do not take showers and have 20-minute, imaginary, philosophical debates with fictitious opponents about the nature of love and the duties it imposes upon men. Women only care because they can use the phrase to avoid consequences.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Women use those words like if they are magic spells.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I have give some thought to this.
For me , love of a couple is a staged process. I am not including the love between mother and child into this
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Lust. I think it can be agreed upon, that love is an emotion. Yes, I used that word. All emotions are a precognitive process. Thus, there must be a precognitive process to trigger the "love" whatever it may be.1.a
. It can't be mUh ExPeRieNCe. Even tho women would like us to believe, that dating a girl < 25 is a sin because prefrontal cortex blabla, experience is a cognitive process, and whatever is coming after that, isn't love.1.b
. It will be argued by women (I am aware, that I should also say : "not just women", but let's not open that front. Also, thanks to admin assist to help me to avoid violating rules), that the "experience" has shaped her in some way, and she's more "formed". Sure, but someone shaped by the wide world isn't attractive for an intimate relationship.1.c
. Also, Experience isn't attractive.The only thing i can fall back on is Lust. Lust in my view is thus the most deep and sacred human drive.
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Incumbency. I think it is a well advised position, that the blood of covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. So the lust should compel the couple to grow together from an early age. Women will say, that why grow together if you can't provide for them? They are better of with Chad because at least he has a Thundercock. And because they will give us a kid, we need to start the negotiation by providing for them first.2.a
. I don't buy, that such women have a good understanding of the journey of her child's father, and hence I doubt that she'd be a good family mother. She will cause conflicts between the child and the father, because the father's worldview may not agree with the expectation of comfort she has for herself and her child. She will be a good single mother, but not a good family mother. Indeed the idea of the family now-a-days is that the mother controls the child, feminism controls the mother, and the father pays. But that is not an appealing family.2.b
. She (also see elaboration in 1.b.) might say, that nOw sHE is A cHaNGed WhAmYn, aND nOw sHE wIlL bUiLd wItH yOu, sHe isn't HERE fOr SeX etc. We all know such memes. But, "building" is not a specific enough word. That is to say, "building" can be bad. I'm not convinced that she's building, either. Even if she's not here for sex, i don't think that argument improves her position.So, yes, a shared running of the race is important to me. Harmony and synchronization can only be achieved by incumbency
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Maintaining it all - Once it is all done, women will have to maintain it. This should be based upon the previous two. This can be augmented in various ways.3.a
. A sense of duty - all relationships will suffer the test of time. A sense of duty may be used to strengthen it or reverse the effect of an on-setting failure. But I do not think the sense of duty can be the origin of love. The sense of duty, again is a post cognitive thing. It can therefore by definition be a very top level thing, without deep grounding in the lizard brain. Women will say, but this is the high level thing. Sure, but high level things are not the basis of an intimate relationship.Using a different analogy: Sense of duty can be a supplement. But if you are basing your diet on the sense of duty, then you have missed the mark
3.b
. Serving each other. Again, that can be classified as sense of duty.3.c
. Common goals / hobbies. Sure, these things can help a stressful situation. But they should not be the basis of an intimate relationship. If I start at Stuttgart and want to go to Berlin, then I can either take the A9 over Nürnberg/Nuremberg or I can take the A71 over Ilmenau. Common Goals alone will not save it.You might offer, that the girl, with a 1000 body count will never ask a second question and if i want to go to Berlin, she'd figure it out the route i am taking, and follow me perfectly ... but all that is - well - bare minimum to not disrupt the peace I anyway have without her.
I don't think that can be enough to give her the recognition of "love" that way.
Also, if you have lust and incumbency, chances are, you will also have harmony, which will lead to common goals, sense of duty, etc.
Women in one hand tend to see the final parts of the process, and focus only on common goal and hobbies, and duty and things like that. But that is Ad hoc ergo Propter hoc fallacy. This maybe due to the reason, that they don't want to be lustful with the man they need a relationship with, but that is a weak woman, and should not be given the recognition of a loving relationship.
On the other hand, they also seem to push for the oddest and the unlikeliest of hopes, such as what if a former slut is the perfect match because all the stars have lined up perfectly, and chad has cockslapped her exactly at a 2.2387 radian angle, with 0 being the straight ahead of his nose, exactly 134.1397 mm left and 469.36 mm below her philtrum and thus allegedly she's exactly what I want....
But again that is not grounded in her lizard brain. And hence, it can't be love !
Of course, Iwill never have a woman/always be incel/marry my left hand/ but this is my personal view on the elusive concept of
love
.Feel free to attack any weakness you find. This set of ideas need to be refined so that I can may be find something worthy to update my doll's AI with.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2mo ago
Dude. You violated rule 1 twice here.
I think there's a lot of good stuff here otherwise so I'm giving you the opportunity to clean it up before I remove it. Please do so at your earliest opportunity.
@moorekom @Typo-MAGAshiv @deeplydisturbed @lurkerhasarisen @Impressive-Cricket-8
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I am incredibly sorry. I will update right away PS: Done
deeplydisturbed FDS Dinner Donor 2mo ago
This is how you respond to feedback.
Well done
Mods have enough shit to deal with, without having to deal with attitude
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Yeah!
Like what to do with all these vcards?!
deeplydisturbed FDS Dinner Donor 2mo ago
gasps in Spanish
How DARE you !
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
For my part, I agree. The closest earthly thing is the love parents have for their children, if the parents aren't dysfunctional pieces of shit. As far as siblings, friends, sexual partners? It's all conditional, and what those conditions are varies somewhat from person to person.
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Damn….I have a second degree burn just from the residual heat coming off that absolute fire he threw at her.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I want to say something in terms of bombing for peace and fucking for virginity. But I wont. I will rather steelman her. I rather wonder, what sort of a relation she is looking for? Siblings ? Then why can't she be honest about that?
The problem I have here is not that she is delusional. She's committing outright relationship assault (i came up with that term)
I dont think this is a fantasy land. I am in fantasy land. The following is what I used to be in the past, but I will write in present tense to maintain text flow.
I want a virgin Miss Wyoming (correct anatomy, long hair... plenty of collagen ), who :
I will not be the provider. I will just
[None of those 3 are too far away from what have been into. But I neither confirm nor deny the exact nature of; and my involvement in the last 3 items]
The stated miss Wyoming will comfort me, feed me, and have more sex with me, and then I can go back to my things.
In my view that is an intimate relationship .
The basis of the relationship is based in intimacy, i.e. sex.
This is not revolving around providing, protecting, paying mortgage.
Yet it is not impossible from a purely theoretical point of view. I get to be in my element of Nerding out in aerospace and doing my things, miss Wyoming, if she were to be above the vile side of her female nature, in her nurturing role - would also find fulfillment in nurturing me.
Of course, now :
and hence, there are practical concerns, same thing that separates the rocket ship as envisioned by a theoretical physicist from the engineer's point of view.
I can't magically handwave these concerns away. But I still want to. This is delusion.
The woman here is Not delusional. She's outright committing relationship assault
She wants a platonic sibling relationship, but wants the perks of an actual intimate relationship.
That's f..king fraud,and assault on a man's psychology.
I have not even touched the demand of a rich stepdaddy in itself either.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 2mo ago
The only delusional part of this is expecting this when you're a "minus six out of ten". Chad gets this quite frequently. There is no end of hot women who pay the bills for some "starving artist" band member or something and fuck them on the regular without expecting any sort of provider actions on his part.
Indeed, this woman is a prime example. She fucked some guy at least once and got pregnant. He's obviously not the provider type if she's looking for one now.
Jeremy Meeks aka "hot felon" aka "prison bae" essentially had this relationship with a billionaire heiress based simply on his looks. And if she didn't snatch him up some other woman would have.
Women's nature is what it is and won't be changed. The answer is either change yourself to be the guy they willingly give this type of relationship to (aka the Skittles guy :) or decide the juice ain't worth the squeeze and live your life without the type of female companionship that you desire.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Just in case anyone reading isn't familiar with it: Be A Skittles Man.
Essential reading.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Sure, that is why it is included in the list of possible reasons.
That statement is a bit of FOMO induction.
If juice isn't worth the squeeze, then the juice can't be the type of "female companionship" i desire.
The statement was fine until the injection of "the type of X Id supposedly want".
Also, "female companionship" isn't interesting
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Good link!
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Dankeschön . That link contains my go-to philosophy.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 2mo ago
I gotta disagree with you a little here.
She's stating her delusion, but she is being honest about it.
"Without sex" is being stated up front.
What most women do is bait-and-switch...... have sex until they get their marriage certificate, and then "women need to be in the mood" and "what have you done for me lately".
Now that is fraud.
Being honest like the girl in OP's post is delusion, but at least she's being honest that the man gets nothing out of the deal.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago Stickied
To fellow mods:
While normally "at least she's honest" type comments are a rule 3 violation, I'm approving this one as he's correcting a matter of fact (fraud vs. delusionally terrible offer).
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
hmm i guess I am going to fall in the semantics fallacy here...
Expecting an intimate relationship (which I think dating is) without sex is also Fraud.
It may be a false advertisement, e.g. trying to sell sugar as an alternative to radiotherapy - even if you are honest and upfront about it, that it is sugar. But if it is sugar, then claiming it as an alternative oncological medication for an extremely advanced issue has already crossed the line.
However, bait and switch is also a fraud. Both things can be fraud, and I am inclined to include both under the same umbrella.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Fraud requires deception.
What she offers is just a blatantly terrible deal. Not fraud.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Would it not be deception, if a quack doctor tried to sell sugar (which he is openly describing and sugar) but claimed it to be the proper cure for Lung Cancer?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Sure, but that doctor is lying by saying that it does something you want.
The Carol in the OP isn't lying; she's whining about she wants with zero regard for what men want.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
isnt she here also lying by implying that her dream man just wants to love her and wants to have intimacy without sex?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2mo ago
Naw, that's delusional fantasy.
If I say "my dream woman gives BJs or intercourse on demand, is 100% faithful to me, doesn't have wild mood swings or start fights over stupid shit, and doesn't spend a lot of money" there's no deception or dishonesty at all. It's just expressing a wish (albeit not a very realistic one).
I mean, she is being honest about what she wants.
However, she can want in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one fills up faster.
hhhhdmt 2mo ago
You are absolutely right. The entitlement of these women into thinking that men owe them fidelity in sexless relationships and that men are supposed to take care of children that are not genetically theirs. Lol. Completely insane.
I hope every woman who has trapped a man in a sexless marriage gets cheated on.
ZZoMBiE13 2mo ago
Dang. This one needs Jim Ross screaming "HE BROKER 'ER IN HAYULF!" Dude bodied her, but it's 100% true for sure. You love to see it.
ElliotPagesLeftTit 2mo ago
I’m guessing a pile-on followed, with delusional women and their orbiters calling him misogynistic.
???? “What a fool believes, he sees. No wise man has the power to reason away what seems to be.”
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJe1iUuAW4M
deeplydisturbed FDS Dinner Donor 2mo ago
Ha! This is the RickRoll of the manosphere.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2mo ago
Only a misogynist wouldn't want to fork-over his paycheck to a burned-out single mom who swears like a grizzled Great Lakes stevedore.
No-Stress-Cat 2mo ago
We need more guys like Chad above out there telling these whores like it is!
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I dunno. The cynic in me says any credentials you use to "prove" yourself to a woman like this are going to be dismissed along with any logical arguments you provide.
These women post in groups to validate themselves in echo chamber style. If Chad walked in the room, they'd try to bed him, but as soon as he walked out again they'd go right back to telling each other how much more they deserve.
The guy is correct, but he would also be correct if he was 5'2'' and had no job.