Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
Posted 6d ago in The Big Question - Permalink - 3.5K Views
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago Stickied
If someone could be so kind, please post to reddit because I'm unable to.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago Stickied
@ogrilla99, @Land_of_the_losers, @Overkill_Engine, and anyone who read this thread and who also has reddit access:
Can one of you please help @polishknight out and crosspost this to reddit as he requested when he first posted it? We still want to try to help normies unplug.
I'd do it myself, but I got permanently suspended from that dump years ago. :P
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3d ago
I'll see what I can do.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
thank you
tallhandsomerichdude 5d ago
It's not that we hate women, it's the fact that we dislike the woman you have become.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Again we here the words misogyny and hate just waved about like they are ordinary every day things.
Sorry but if I find you boring and selfish, I do not necessarily hate you. I might just avoid you a lot of the time, unless I was feeling desperate for the one thing you could give me that I can't give myself.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 5d ago
Isn't it feminist doctrine that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle? And then they're surprised when they realize bicycles don't need fish either?
It's funny how she doesn't actually address what Tate and the others said in their quote, that aside from sex, most women offer very little. She probably just assumes that's obviously wrong and misogynistic but that's not true: men have been saying for decades that women have stopped being ladies and have instead become men. Young with today are taught to become either boss babes or angry blue haired feminists. There was literally a popular song called "I'm a bitch". Oh, they now have college degrees? That's nice but that doesn't make you more attractive and indeed the lessons in entitlement and bitchiness that that educational journey also gave you makes you less attractive than a high school grad who still manages to be nice to men.
Men in the past also didn't think with their penises (at least when it came to LTRs / marriages), contrary to what this author believes. It's just that women in the past at least did offer something: someone who could manage your household, raise a family with, give you emotional support when times got tough. Now women proudly proclaim that they can't cook and never will, didn't want kids (or are too old when they're ready to settle down), and decry any sort of support as "unpaid emotional labor" while shaming men as being weak boys if they ever even show that they need it. So tell me again why a man should lust after these creatures?
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
It is less a question about likes and preferences and more about survival.
The power to destroy on a whim without consequence has given women a power complex that is toxic for men to be around. And this extends beyond the romance into nearly all facets of existence. It is in the best interest of men to look to their survival first. If we don't know where the landmines are buried, why traipse through the field?
Well, now that women are realizing that men are not offering their resources, it shifts the focus from their power to destroy to men's power to abstain or be absent. This is a direct threat to women's lifestyle. Hence, the outcry as women realize that they will have to work for the rest of their lives without a provider or protector.
Laydeez, you played yourself.
Maturin_nj 5d ago
Maybe some of these girls are missing the periodic dopamine hit and yearn for a return of the rank and file guy who they can reject for a 2x affect. Soon you'll be seeing tic toc vids, where did all the puas go.
ballubhai 4d ago
PUA is dead. Even your regular Joe walking upto a chick and asking her out is dead. It is all gamified online now for profit.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 6d ago
Women: I only fuck top 1% men.
Also women: 99% of men not having a great sex life is men's fault.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago
This is also why I think Richard Cooper is not an ideal role model for men. He makes many good points I agree with, but his life philosophy is to spend your life to become the perfect man to then bang single mothers or young 304s.
The problem is that raising the bar just makes things harder on all men, including the alphas. The standards are raised for all men and hoeflation kicks in. Like a housing bubble, it eventually deflates and I think that even above average men, men who would have made great husbands for women back 20 years ago are dropping out.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
That used to be true, but now that particular bubble just seems to grow and grow.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
Heh, it'll burst sooner or later.
The housing market seemed invincible in 2006, 2007.
Maturin_nj 5d ago
When I watched Cooper a few years back I caught a bunch of his lies. One I remenber is how he claimed to use the mystery method after reading the book, but the dates (publication of the book) didn't match up. We all know he went to the bar and stood against the wall drinking his beer all night. I can tell you right now he never did any pickup. He knows very little about it.
This one was far worse and i continued to hammer him in the comments section. Coop claimed he brought a babe back to his house. And she banged him because he had a 17k couch. She recognized the high cost of the couch and equated that with him being a high value man. You can't make it up. Its on record in a vid maybe 5/6 years ago. I'm the guy going after him on those remarks.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
Yeah, "lead with your wallet" has never been Red Pill advice.
I first dismissed him out of hand because he ripped off Rollo and Patrice O'Neal without giving credit.
Then I accepted him for a while because Rollo and Rian did, and I figured their endorsement was good enough for me. That, and Cooper actually does have some good content. And to his credit, he was the first 21 Convention guy to realize what a psychotic piece of shit Anthony "Dream" Johnson is.
However, I caught more and more advice that amounted to "lead with your wallet" rather than "if you have money, hide it". That, and his constant theft from Partrice O'Neal really pisses me off, especially when I see guys who should know better such as Rollo and Joker of Better Bachelor crediting Rich Cooper for one of Patrice O'Neal's best quotes:
Maturin_nj 3d ago
Nailed it with leading with the wallet. Terrible on so many fronts telling regular normie guys this shit. He also has this matter of fact attitude. As if cooper solved the girl problem with some sort of analytical check list predicated on excellence.
Comparing O'Neil to cooper is like comparing Elvis to Timberlake. O'Neil had humor, charisma, original insights, and a charm about him who dropped truth bombs. Cooper is dull and humorless, who beats his audience over thehead with dumb cliches with a sledgehammer. He takes the 'Excellence' shtick way too far while demonstrating a lack of awareness.
There's a guy named Eric Peterson with a smaller channel called skills of attraction who runs rings around Coop. Coop is good for a 19 year old kid starting out for some basic ground floor info.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 6d ago
Look, the most important thing is that ALL men learn to man up and become top 1% men.
JudgeSmales 6d ago
I first time I heard "women would much rather share an alpha than be exclusive with a beta," it was a revelation to hear it condensed so simply. Then I realized how common that was in my own life.
Three married guys I know (two alpha, the other close enough) cheated on their wives, and the wives found out. All three wives stayed married, and it's not like they were living in the lap of luxury. It gave them tingles to know they were married to a guy other women desire.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 6d ago
Yeah, it explains so much ..... both about how men and women are..... and also provides a clear plan of action :)
JudgeSmales 6d ago
Her: "That said, what many of these guys resent is not merely their own empty sex lives but specifically that women are able to capitalize on their sexuality in ways they can’t."
Me: It doesn't sound like she (and other women) are doing much "capitalizing," which is why articles like this keep appearing. So who's the desperate one here?
Her: "Young straight men with any interest in “masculinity” should be horny for women — this seems like something even Andrew Tate would acknowledge."
Me: We were horny, until women criminalized and weaponized it against us. Enjoy your gun rack of vibrators and dildos, honey.
Also, I hadn't read that Andrew Tate quote before, but one trait he left out was that women are DUMB. In my (never married) life, I've dated two women who became practicing doctors (internal medicine) and one of them, on her best day, could hang with me intellectually and thinking on her feet. The other one couldn't, and all other women I've dated (without specifically aiming for dummies) have been incapable of deep, organized thinking. I often wonder how they get through a routine day.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
"Resent" is a strong word, but I'll go with it. I don't resent an "empty sex life". I've chosen it.
What angers me is the lies I was told about this country by this country (about equality, about the objectivity of laws and courts) and about women by my family (if not by lies, by the lack of proper knowledge). I'm OK with my decision to not date. Any language to the contrary, is shaming language which I simply disregard.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
That and it become increasingly clear that a lot of women live a lifestyle that makes them more toxic and disease ridden than a petri dish stored under a bar urinal.
Why expend any effort at all to interact with that shit much less risk anything like lively-hood and reputation that are hard enough to come by to begin with? It's not like men have the option of spreading their legs to get those things like any non fugly woman does, so they actually have to work to get them. No point in risking all that on someone nigh guaranteed to take that for granted.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Young men need to understand that women will routinely use men's sexuality to manipulate men, shame men, hurt men, and prosecute men.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
And as long as this is allowed to happen, with no consequences, it will.
Mastering your own desires and exhibiting self-control in this area makes women seethe, because in doing so you disarm them of their most potent weapon. In fact, darn near their only weapon.
Wamemz: "If you don't do what we say, we will not give you sex."
Man: "I don't want that from you."
Wahmum: hatred
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago
It's amusing, isn't it?, that women are shocked that men are the ones who perhaps want a relationship that's more than just transactional sex? It even shocks them when Andrew Tate suggests not being horny for 5 minutes and seeing if he still wants her.
During the 80's and onward, men were shamed for not being in control of our sexual urges at all times. They celebrated the low-trust society: If a woman CAN hurt a man, then she WILL. Get used to it. So most men withdrew. It's now a matter of survival: Is it worth getting kicked out of university or being socially ostracized because your imperfect approach offended someone?
I think I cracked the cheat-code (which I'll happily share): In discussions with women on this matter, I simply state I've been to brothels so sex is no big deal to me. It shocks them because few men will admit going to brothels, but it also undermines any argument they use that they can P-whip a man by denying him sex. Even if one never went to an actual brothel, it's a believable story.
I find it leaves them in an epileptic shock with no way to attack. Hilarious. If they even try to shame me about it, I simply state that a prostitute costs about as much as 5 dinner dates to get a woman into bed, so it's all the same to me.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago
And way less emotional labor. Plus an actual whore is a more honest person than a dinner date whore when one thinks about it. Neither are good relationship prospects though.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
There were two prostitutes I considered dating seriously. I know that's shocking to say, but they were genuinely pleasant women to be around. Allow me to explain:
A brothel experience is the opposite of a meal whore: Instead of paying for food multiple times to get a chance at sex, you pay it all up front for guaranteed sex. The women willing to sleep with you for money come out and line up. It's like being a Chad where instead of working to be accepted by a woman, I got to select which one was best FOR ME.
They're literally professional about it: You get undressed and they give you great sex, no kissing. They want your rocks off ASAP but they're usually still on the clock. Most men are done and leave but I like to hang around and about 1/2 of the time they don't want to hang out but I do it anyway. So unlike a dinner date where the man has to entertain the girl along with paying to get laid, I actually enjoy being with them after sex. Even the lousy ones were interesting in their own ways.
I didn't have to feel a need to "impress" them. I didn't have to pass shit tests. I didn't have to "be nice". I could be my authentic self which is every (trad) blue pilled guy's dream, isn't it?
Most times we would part ways but two girls were genuinely sweet and nice. I found prostitutes were generally better companionship, statistically, than dinner whores.
On a conservative forum I frequent, I make the case for legalized prostitution for family values. Let men who are looking to pay for sex do it with actual women who do that for a living, not women pretending to be traditional as golddiggers or foodies.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
The issue I found is that even though the open prostitutes often end up being more honest and tolerable people than Schrödinger's dinner whores is that both have fidelity issues because the reason for them engaging in a transactional relationship is so fungible (meals/money) that fidelity on their part becomes completely unreliable.
And I say that from experience as someone that was once idealistic enough to try to date a stripper. Now I know better. Socialize with them, treat them well enough, and throw some dick into them? Sure, whatever. Any form of commitment? Fuck that! They're concubine class at best, never try to wife them.
Basically, the lesson I am trying to convey for the audience is that one should only consider committing to a woman that does not have an easy replacement available for what you are offering her.
Because women are only as loyal as their options.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
Agreed. The point being, in this modern age, that most women are highly unreliable overall since most are meal whores or have “bad boy” issues looking for dual-mating and so on.
That said, I used to think strippers were the lowest form of sex worker on the totem pole (pun intended) but Only Friends are even lower: These women exploit men’s loneliness putting on a (cheap) act of emotional empathy without fully going through (having sex with them). Aside from the fun of going out with guys for a bachelor party, I found strip clubs to be depressing places.
JudgeSmales 1d ago
"Aside from the fun of going out with guys for a bachelor party, I found strip clubs to be depressing places."
No truer words were ever spoken. I've been in strip clubs maybe 10 times, usually for bachelor parties or trips to Las Vegas with pals. After 15 minutes, I'm bored and looking for the exit. Strip clubs are "wallet fucks."
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6d ago
Oh indeed.
Hurdle for women: Competing and offering pussy to super-rich, ultra-desirable MegaChads amid the crippling shortage of same men.
Hurdle for men: See previous.
Hurdle for MegaChads: The fuck you talkin bout?
ballubhai 6d ago
FFS I will chime in too this time.
Before 2014 when we did not have dating apps and Instagram for women to shop dick from; I could go to any local bar and game a girl to bring back home. For guys like me who were above average in the looks department and fit (not too shredded from the roids) the odds were with us. But then came Tinder and every girl knows who the top 100 guys in the city are and what their bedroom looks like. I noticed something strange since then. No matter how good my game be, how well dressed up I am etc I just cant seem to bring home an 8+ from a cafe/bar.
Modus operandi seems to be like this nowadays for women:
1) Go out with their friends. 2) Look around, maybe spot one or two above average men. 3) Wait for them to hit on you so she can feel good about herself. 4) Hop onto to Tinder to find GigaChad dick for the night and leave for his place straight from the venue because Chad needs a dick warmer for a couple of hours.
All women ( I mean all of them) in a any city/town have been given free access to the top 1% guys. So why would she even go home with anyone else when she can fuck these guys with a swipe and hope to be chosen as their LTR in their delusional minds.
I don't hate women. I fucking love them but that does not mean I have to like them because the juice seems to be not worth the squeeze.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3d ago
I agree. It's funny that the author proclaims she misses the PUA guys, but then assumes they're gone because men no longer desire women. No, they're gone for several reasons.
First, as you state, with the advent of dating apps, game is obsolete. If you want to fuck a lot of women, you will do far, far better not spending money and time at a bar, learning game, and trying to pick up women in person. Much more fruitful to spend that time improving your social media presence, swiping right on every woman in the dating apps and waiting for one of them to take the bait and come over to your house that night. No gaming needed. Hence why PUA instructors have gone out of business, but websites now exist instructing you on how to curate your instagram and facebook pages to maximally attract women. Game has moved online. Face-to-face game is no longer viable.
Second, PUA face another risk that didn't exist before: #metoo and the whole criminalization of any sort of personal interaction that the woman (even in hindsight) decides she didn't like. Years ago, if a woman went to bar and some guy she didn't like tried to flirt with her, she'd just brush it off, maybe joke to her friends about it, and that was that. Now, you risk her having the bartender throwing you out, your face plastered on some facebook page dedicated to shaming men for having the audacity to try to talk to a woman, and, in the most extreme cases, having actual cops involved. Even the best pickup artists have a huge failure rate (like 90/10). That was fine when the worst a girl could do to you was blow you off or maybe insult/laugh at you. But if 90% of women you throw game at don't like it, you only need one of them to decide to escalate to posting your mugshot online or calling the cops for your whole life to change. Totally not worth it.
Finally, I'll say this as my personal opinion: girls have become fucking retarded in social spaces. A long time ago, when I first started getting comfortable in my skin and started flirting and gaming, it was actually fun. I understand not every guy likes this, but I actually enjoyed the verbal sparring, bantering, joking around, etc. Even if I didn't go home with a woman every night, I usually still enjoyed the process, because even women who ultimately declined your advances also often enjoyed the few minutes of flirtation, or at least could carry themselves as something other than a deaf-mute person.
But nowadays, women's addiction to social media has completely atrophied their social skills. Any sort of PUA techniques focused on verbal communication is pointless. Gaming a woman nowadays is like trying to flirt with a chimpanzee: they can only communicate in grunts and basic emojis. And it's not just a matter of interest. Even women who do end up liking me and going out with me, I find it's harder and harder to carry on any sort of conversation as they spend most of their days no longer communicating but merely reacting to whatever social media they're consuming 24/7.
ballubhai 3d ago
It is so funny to me that governments are failing to realise why marriage rates have tumbled and people are not even breeding anymore.
Addiction to social media and making the IRL mating strategies obsolete have resulted in a very dysfunctional society. Don't get me wrong, I don't subscribe to Black Pill, not at all. All I have noticed is that it has become 1000x times harder to get laid on a random Saturday night as a an average dude due to easy availability of online Chads.
Have you seen how addicted to TikTok these bitches are? I was dating this girl and eevry night she would be on TikTok for more than an hour. It was the most annoying shit ever and all her personilty, banter and verbal cues were based off off what she was seeing on that garbage app. I realised it was not just her. Every woman in the west is addicted to TT between the ages of 16-40 I think.
I might explore this topic and write an essay like Rollo in the near future because it is such a facinating thing to see happening right before our eyes. What is it about TikTok that makes women be on it 24x7. My suspicion lies in endless gossip channel- if you think of TT as a townhall for women, it serves its purpose as a mindless gossip stream for the female hind brain to absorb and follow.
Somewhere around Covid I found myself addicted to Social Media as well and just decided to get rid of my smartphone and went on to purchase a cheap keypad phone. Its been two years and I haven't looked back.
If any of these bitches want to find a quality man and lead fulfilling lives then they need to unplug from the online world and become active and approacable IRL. But who are we kidding LOL.
I am happy with my dog and gym.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Sort of like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Es8ab0H8I
I loved Roosh's books when he was in "sinner" mode although I could tell how the lifestyle had dragged him down. In one story, he says he hit on a girl rather poorly at last call and she decked him. As in gave him a hard slap. He didn't say anything offensive, he was simply lame.
Such women treat us as worse than sexual dogs in that someone might call the cops on them if they hit an actual dog.
Roosh says he sometimes spent weeks, about 80 hours, to get laid. Imagine if he had invested that time in some microbiology innovation. When I met him, I was stunned to see how handsome he was. He must have worked out regularly and was well groomed as well as tall. If he had "instagram game", as you put it, he wouldn't have to work hard to pull in tail.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
When my mother came of age in 1958, Back-to-the-Future era, the thought of sleeping with a hot guy outside of marriage was inconceivable. She'd get a "reputation" and no sane beta male would wife her up.
Now, the idea of rutting in their 20's, even becoming a single mother, is normalized along with LGBT, face piercings, anything goes! In a low trust society, there's no inhibition on a woman sleeping with giga-chad to see what it's like and like you said, why settle for an above average "normie" when she can go home with Chad?
They don't think about the future because they see the exceptions as applying to them. If they have a friend who won the lottery and got a prime beta buck to bail her out, why shouldn't she? She's SPECIAL, yes? Hundreds of men hitting on her during her 20's validated her high self-esteem.
Perhaps what we're seeing now is a sufficient number of men are going MGTOW, or at least practicing some self-restraint, to finally dent the narrative a bit.
On the other side, thanks for sharing, I was wondering what the impact is on the PUA community. When it becomes Not Economically Viable for even a gifted PUA to bother entertaining the 304s for some bedroom action, will that lifestyle finally die off?
Perhaps we shouldn't mourne it so much. Aside from The Austin Powers era, most men never got much from it. On the other hand, men who want to "date with intention" to marriage will face a hurdle that women in the wild treat men who approach them as if they're PUAs setting up the modern dating paradigm that to get married, you have to have the same skillset as someone who can pull dozens of women for casual sex so what's the point?
My father probably made an awkward approach to my mother in the dance hall that would get mocked on social media today. Most men in their early 20's were like that. They had no books, no good advice, and quite frankly didn't need it.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
Given the steady stream of femme oriented complaints, quite likely. It's a pretty badly kept secret that marriage is not a good deal for men going into it, during it, or after it. Hell, it becomes harder by the day to justify even a non marital relationship given how toxic women have become.
Why buy the aging cow when you can get an unending supply of it from younger cows a right swipe away?
Thing is, all women's woes in this department were self inflicted by them. Only they can actually fix their shit.
Men are just finally realizing not only can they not fix these broken women, it was never their responsibility to do so to begin with.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
Yes, but we allowed it to come to this. Men allowed everything, like the 19th amendment, and were cajoled by a minority of women that it was "good for us". As a group, we were foolish to allow all this mess. Not the first time in history, either.
I hope we can learn from the mistakes of the past. Women do need training in femininity and housekeeping and wifery - not science, math, and computers. They are like children - we cannot "fix" them, but we can teach them what is expected, and if done right you can actually have a good kid who follows orders and does the right thing.
If we abdicate our power and responsibility, that's when women go haywire. They are not meant to be independent of male leadership and authority.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago Stickied
That's the thing, if we are not their family/fathers, we have never had power or responsibility over them.
Thus is it not the responsibility of men who are neither their family or fathers to fix them or coddle them.
The closest to "correct" approach is as how @polishknight is saying:
Now once she is an adult, if she chooses to go against her father's instruction, that's her problem, not the problem of a man that was never in a custodial role over her.
The only responsibility men have to to let these women fail and even die alone from the results of their poor choices if they choose to ignore any of the multitude of warnings given in good faith otherwise. If we do not have power over them then we should not accept responsibility for them otherwise as we are not slaves.
The problem is granting women power over themselves without the attendant responsibility over themselves. Something our society still fails at and continues to coddle them and then they grow to adulthood with severely arrested mental development, AKA: Most Responsible Teenager in the House.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago
Have I mentioned how much I enjoy reading your commentary?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
My daughter was playing around and got a skinned knee and my wife screamed at me: "How come whenever she goes with you she comes back injured?" The thing is, though, it wasn't a big deal in that after she cried a bit, and I soothed her, and she felt better she was more confident. I don't spoon feed her but I mentor her. I show her how to go up to other kids and ask to play and now she's a popular kid in school.
I don't boss her around unless it's for something important like brushing her teeth and I remind her of stuff she wants from me and educate her: "I can't have anything in my life unless I earn it. You have to earn the privileges you want too. This is how life is. I want you to succeed and have a good life." My ego is out of it. If she asks me "why", I don't use the "because I said so". I am happy to explain to her why.
I read that one reason why celebrities are insane at times is their emotional development becomes arrested once they achieve fame. They don't have to self-criticize themselves anymore because they're adulated by millions of fans. Young women achieve Chad Like status at an early age plus all the girl power messages they receive. It's no wonder they're Veruca Salts.
I had some fun playing chess with her on-off for the past two years and entered her for fun in the school chess tournament. Without even trying, she scored 4th out of 14 against kids in the after school chess club.
My wife married me, she says, among other reasons because I'm a cat person and she sees what a cat whisperer I am. I listen to her and earn her trust daily. I know some will say that as a parent, I shouldn't have to "earn" trust, but by that I mean someday she'll be off on her own and then I can't use the stick on her anymore. I'm thinking about that day.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Yeah too many people lean on authoritarian parenting instead of authoritative parenting and are shocked and appalled when their spawn devolves into a barely socialized monkey the second they are out from under the parental thumb.
Because the children were taught repression instead of self control.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
I saw this about 2 years ago. I clipped it:
Things strict parents think they’re teaching you: 1) How to behave
What they actually teach you: 1) How to listen for footsteps. 2) How to appear busy. 3) How to manipulate someone into calming down. 4) How to lie on the spot.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago
If I had a son, I'd also emphasize that he learn about personal self-defense , a diet/physical regimen to increase his height, and fundamentals of game and social interactions. The term "autistic" is thrown around a lot, but many men are in that state because nobody prepares young people (men and women alike) for the basic realities modern social life. When I was a kid, we had "home economics" classes, no kidding, such as balancing a checkbook and cooking as well as sex ed that went into basic sexual situations. Our kick-ass shop teacher told us to be careful if a woman we slept with one night said she was knocked up because she could be trying to set us up. I had fantastic public school teachers back in 1980.
Housekeeping isn't that big of a deal, really. Basic skills are important though and I met many career women whose places looked like something out of hoarders. Their primary woe was the usual hypergamy combined with ambivalence and lack of accountability.
Story about my friend's 90 year old ultra Catholic religious Polish mother: Back during commie times, she was working late and some guy came up to her and flashed her and, without missing a beat, said: "My husband's is bigger" and walked on. My grandmother loved boxing: the bloodier the matches, the better. These were NOT shirking violets but yet they raised children, were super nurturing, and dressed feminine.
Whatever problems are in this world, gentlemen, I want you to know my daughter isn't going to be a contributor to them due to lack of effort on my part.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago
Still had this in some areas in the late 90's, it's funny how my "backwards" rural school produced men that were functional adults that even knew how to sew if needed yet modern schools are churning out otherwise healthy nu-males that can't even change their own fucking tires or plugs and oil. And the women churned out by those schools can do even less and then wonder why they are only treated as disposable holes.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Gearhead talk: I just scored a great deal on a new CX-5 and I'm going to need to change my oil next year so I picked up a ramp at harbor freight. I need a 17mm socket and torque wrench I'm waiting to go on sale. The youtube video shows that the oil filter, and drain plug, are easily placed right under the engine with a few screws to release to get to it. Simple job and will save me about $40/year.
My wife's Audi Q3, however, has something like 20 screws to release to get to the drain plug and the oil filter is hidden underneath multiple things you gotta remove to get to it. I'm wondering if I should try to get dealer specials to get it done at a good price (and have them try to upsell me) rather than give my mechanic $110 but since I don't have a lift, it's not worth it to me and my time to spend doing it myself.
My tire story: My (then) pregnant wife 8 years ago popped BOTH of her side tires on a curb. The dentist she was seeing suggested calling a tow truck but I googled and found our cars were compatible spares so I hurried over there and arranged our spares on the back axle and the good ones on front (although some tell me I should have put the good ones on the rear?). I just felt safer with the good tires on the front of a front wheel drive car. This was in 10 degree weather. She was standing around with this big belly.
So we drove together to Costco where we got her tires 3 months previously and they replaced them, for free, on warranty but we had to wait a week for shipment.
I don't think anyone "taught" me these things. I just did some basic research, even before the internet. Now it's trivial to get it done. A friend of mine had his VW blow out the turbo and instead of paying a mechanic 5 grand, he did it himself over the weekend for about 1/4th that by watching a youtube video. He was rather innovative in how he set up a winch in his home garage.
TJMS 6d ago
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Chad's down for a dickin but providers are slim pickins.
When the carousel stops, her bean she'll be flickin.
With no man to pay, her purse takes a lickin.
-William Shakespeare
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Bitches are starting to feel the consequences of their actions and it's some delightful schadenfreude!